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LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:10 pm

Hi there,
Hoping that someone might have some surplus 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals - wanting non-camo eg. USN, RAF or ??? - they would like to on-sell? I'm a bit over the SEA / Vietnam era camo scene by now.....
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby qfa_tsv » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:33 am

any particular model of Phantom?
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:55 pm

It's a F-4G Wild Weasel kit but can also be built as an E or F.
It's an older Italeri kit and the decals in it are starting to yellow.
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(My model is not suitable for RAF, as apparently the RAF ones were Ks, and a different shape).
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby mozit » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:52 am

You could tape the decals onto a board and put them out in the sun and they should come good again. Depending on how bad they are and how strong the sun is, a day or 2 should do it. Maybe wait for spring/summer .......
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:12 pm

Well that sounds like a good trick, a new one on me, well worth a try - so what happens, the UV bleaches the film?
Thanks for the tip, I'll see how I go!
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby mozit » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:36 pm

I knew I shoulda taken some before and after shots!
All I can offer is the attached comparison of a pair of very old KP La-5 decals - one bleached a couple of years ago, one not. Could have bleached it more ...
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby DDGboy » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:34 am

Can 100% guarantee this works, do it myself ALL the time. Ol' Sol even has a crack at Japanese ivory whites (older Hasegawa, Tamiya etc), helps but only the direct application of fire can fully fix them...

I usually sit mine in a sun-drenched window (which is pretty much all year round in heave...sorry, Tweed!) for a day or so, just be careful as they will bow with the heat (will flatten as they cool afterwards, I often stick mine at the bottom of a HUGE book for a few days) and if they touch the glass and there is any moisture about they can stick. On less-windy days I'll put them outside weighted down with a pebble or something, but 9 times out of 10 I'm doing laps of the yard later trying to find them...

I often coat them with Microscale Liquid Decal Film once de-yellowed, no point doing all that just to have them explode on contact with water!
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:37 pm

Thanks so much for the tips guys! A big help. Bring on the sunshine...
I'll get some Liquid Decal Film too, I have had a couple of decal sheets that looked perfectly fine only to explode in the water - the decal and the backing paper expanding at different rates it would appear.
I mostly only buy pre-owned kits for me and my boys so this advice will help us a lot thankyou.
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby RayS » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:22 am

Just a couple of notes on sun bleaching decals.

I put them into a resealable clear plastic bag and them tape the to a north facing window. It can take up to 3-4 weeks for the sun to work its magic. So don't expect it to happen in day or 2 with older decals.

If the bleaching fails, I might have some spare non SEA decals for an F-4E, I will take a look in the stash.
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby hrtpaul » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:42 pm

I've probably got heaps but I'm not home for another couple of weeks yet.
Brother: Do you really need that many Phantoms?
Me: Don't make me kick you outta the shed for asking dumb questions
Brother: But are you gonna build all these models?
Me: Yeah of course I am. Now get outta my shed

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