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LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:10 pm

Hi there,
Hoping that someone might have some surplus 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals - wanting non-camo eg. USN, RAF or ??? - they would like to on-sell? I'm a bit over the SEA / Vietnam era camo scene by now.....
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby qfa_tsv » Mon Aug 26, 2019 11:33 am

any particular model of Phantom?
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:55 pm

It's a F-4G Wild Weasel kit but can also be built as an E or F.
It's an older Italeri kit and the decals in it are starting to yellow.
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(My model is not suitable for RAF, as apparently the RAF ones were Ks, and a different shape).
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby mozit » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:52 am

You could tape the decals onto a board and put them out in the sun and they should come good again. Depending on how bad they are and how strong the sun is, a day or 2 should do it. Maybe wait for spring/summer .......
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:12 pm

Well that sounds like a good trick, a new one on me, well worth a try - so what happens, the UV bleaches the film?
Thanks for the tip, I'll see how I go!
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby mozit » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:36 pm

I knew I shoulda taken some before and after shots!
All I can offer is the attached comparison of a pair of very old KP La-5 decals - one bleached a couple of years ago, one not. Could have bleached it more ...
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby DDGboy » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:34 am

Can 100% guarantee this works, do it myself ALL the time. Ol' Sol even has a crack at Japanese ivory whites (older Hasegawa, Tamiya etc), helps but only the direct application of fire can fully fix them...

I usually sit mine in a sun-drenched window (which is pretty much all year round in heave...sorry, Tweed!) for a day or so, just be careful as they will bow with the heat (will flatten as they cool afterwards, I often stick mine at the bottom of a HUGE book for a few days) and if they touch the glass and there is any moisture about they can stick. On less-windy days I'll put them outside weighted down with a pebble or something, but 9 times out of 10 I'm doing laps of the yard later trying to find them...

I often coat them with Microscale Liquid Decal Film once de-yellowed, no point doing all that just to have them explode on contact with water!
Thank God for the internet, otherwise I'd NEVER know that EVERY kit I've ever bought is total garbage!
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby gilltech » Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:37 pm

Thanks so much for the tips guys! A big help. Bring on the sunshine...
I'll get some Liquid Decal Film too, I have had a couple of decal sheets that looked perfectly fine only to explode in the water - the decal and the backing paper expanding at different rates it would appear.
I mostly only buy pre-owned kits for me and my boys so this advice will help us a lot thankyou.
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby RayS » Fri Aug 30, 2019 8:22 am

Just a couple of notes on sun bleaching decals.

I put them into a resealable clear plastic bag and them tape the to a north facing window. It can take up to 3-4 weeks for the sun to work its magic. So don't expect it to happen in day or 2 with older decals.

If the bleaching fails, I might have some spare non SEA decals for an F-4E, I will take a look in the stash.
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Re: LF - 1/72 F-4 Phantom decals non-camo if poss

Postby hrtpaul » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:42 pm

I've probably got heaps but I'm not home for another couple of weeks yet.
Brother: Do you really need that many Phantoms?
Me: Don't make me kick you outta the shed for asking dumb questions
Brother: But are you gonna build all these models?
Me: Yeah of course I am. Now get outta my shed

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