A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

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A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby Biggles81 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:33 am

Given I am working in Jakarta at the moment I thought I would revisit the Museum Satria Mandala after 10 years. Not much has changed - the aircraft have considerably more bird droppings, and I even spotting a sparrow nesting in the aileron of the Mustang, but the only new thing was the A-4N installed last year and restored to its original scheme by local Indonesian scale modellers.

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and the newly refinished A-4N in Yogya - also restored by the same modellers for comparison. It no longer has a split personality

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A humid afternoon in Jakarta Part 2

Postby Biggles81 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:38 am

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A captured ex-Japanese Willow (locally a Cureng)

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MiG-21F-13

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Mi-4 Hound

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P-51D Mustang

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TNI-AL Gannet

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Former Dutch B-25J handed to the TNI-AU in 1949

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A very rare ex-Japanese Ki-79 trainer variant of the Ki-27 Nate
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Re: A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby Calum » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:06 pm

Love that A-4. One of the nicest schemes the Skyhawk ever wore IMHO (After the Kiwi Euro 1 one of course :D )
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Re: A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby Biggles81 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:45 pm

Calum wrote:Love that A-4. One of the nicest schemes the Skyhawk ever wore IMHO (After the Kiwi Euro 1 one of course :D )


Yes the lads did a good job - but no comments on lack of PPE.

http://corong.id/polhukam/akhirnya-a-4- ... i-jakarta/
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Re: A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby qfa_tsv » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:03 am

Biggles81 wrote:
Calum wrote:Love that A-4. One of the nicest schemes the Skyhawk ever wore IMHO (After the Kiwi Euro 1 one of course :D )


Yes the lads did a good job - but no comments on lack of PPE.

http://corong.id/polhukam/akhirnya-a-4- ... i-jakarta/


and they totally fluffed the pre and post shading
what were they thinking :)
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Re: A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby David E » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:24 am

Some gems there.

I remember reports of rocket firing B-25s being used against Fretelin in 1975.
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Re: A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby Biggles81 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:52 pm

David E wrote:Some gems there.

I remember reports of rocket firing B-25s being used against Fretelin in 1975.


I will have to check some of my TNI-AU histories but I think it was their A-26s being used in that role, the B-25's having been retired after the Irian Jaya operations.
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Re: A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby David E » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:47 pm

There are some articles on line but my Bahasa is non existent.
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Re: A humid Sunday afternoon in Jakarta

Postby Biggles81 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:00 pm

David E wrote:There are some articles on line but my Bahasa is non existent.


I have had a quick scan of a bunch of online refs (my Bahasa is very fluent) and there is some conflicting info. One says Skaud 1 still had one serviceable B-25 at the time of Operasi Seroja, but all the others say the B-25s had been withdrawn from service. They do all say the Skaud 1 had 2 of their 6 A-26s still serviceable for Op Seroja but the lack of air support options due to the grounding of the P-51s and the T-33s yet to be fitted with armament led to the fitting out of two C-47s as a gunship to support the invasion using .50 cals from the P-51s and B-25s. Later the T-33s would be based at Bacau for ops against Falentil.

My copies of the official history are in storage but when I am in the library at work this week I will check it to see what they say.

Edit - so the Library does not have the TNI-AU histories but does have the TNI official history (who would have thought an Indonesian Department of Defence Library would not hold the service official histories :lol: ) anyways the "official" history states one A-26 was used in Operation Seroja. No mention of the B-25s. This tallies with most of the online refs so is likely to be as correct as we can get.
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